I used to write off Marvel’s Ultimate universe as a cheap imitation of the real Earth-616 Marvel continuity that began withFantastic Four #1 in 1961.
Now? It’s possibly my preferred recommendation for new Marvel comic readers.
在我们开始之前,如果你想通读整个漫威终极宇宙——几乎每一期!– with Comic Book Herald’sMy Ultimate Yearreading club,看看播客和俱乐部吧!
《漫威终极宇宙》是一部惊心动魄的电影,是一个奇妙的起点,很少在缓慢而缓慢的故事情节上浪费时间。对于外行来说,漫威的终极系列漫画采用了所有现有和已知的角色——蜘蛛侠、x战警、复仇者联盟——并将他们重新塑造在一个类似但不同的、发生在21世纪的终极宇宙中。这是一种可能完全失败的概念,但实际上适用于这十年来一些最好的漫威故事。
以下是《终极宇宙》的阅读顺序。虽然我把所有的问题都分开了,但我想说的是,您实际上可以阅读这些系列的很多内容,而不需要太关心其他的问题。例如,在我思考外部的终极宇宙之前,我阅读了100多期《终极蜘蛛侠》,阅读体验非常愉快。所以选择你觉得合适的方法。
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Best of the Ultimate Universe – Essential Fast Track
The Ultimate Universe is an enjoyable and completely palatable read in its entirety. Nonetheless, if you still want all killer no filler – and if Sum 41 taught us anything, it’s that you most certainly do – here are my picks for the best 10 Ultimate Universe comics of all time!
1)Ultimate Spider-Man by Brian Michael Bendis and Mark Bagley
2)Ultimate X-Men by Mark Millar and Adam Kubert
3)The Ultimates by Mark Millar and Bryan Hitch
7)Ultimate Comics Ultimates by Jonathan Hickman and Esad Ribic
8) Ultimate Comics Spider-Man: Miles Morales by Brian Michael Bendis, Sara Pichello, and David Marquez
9)Divided We Fall / United We Stand
10)Cataclysm
Ultimate Universe Trade Reading Order
Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra #1 – #4
Ultimate Iron Man #1 – #5 + Ultimate Iron Man II #1 – #5
Ultimate Marvel Team Up #1-#16
Ultimate Fantastic Four #1 – #6
Ultimate War + Ultimate X-Men 26 to 33
Ultimate Spider-Man 40 to 45, 47 to 53
Please note that the issue by issue reading order can be found below, and that the rest of these collections can be found in theUltimate Universe trade collector’s guide.
The Ultimate Marvel Reading Order
Intro to the Ultimate U
Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra #1 – #4
This story is all flashback so you could choose to read it after Daredevil makes an appearance in Ultimate Marvel Team-Up, but I prefer it as origin here.
Another flashback that is actually published well after a number of the issues below. Daredevil and Elektra are not hugely essential to many of the following Spider-Man, X-Men, and Ultimates stories (although they do pop up) so you could always come back to these stories if you like.
Ultimate Iron Man #1 – #5 + Ultimate Iron Man II #1 – #5
倒叙钢铁侠分别出自2005年和2007-2008年的系列。我认为这些都是不必要的,我更喜欢马克·米勒和布莱恩·希契在《终极大镖客》中塑造的完全成型的托尼·斯塔克。That said, Iron Man’s origins in the Ultimate universe areverydifferent than those of Earth-616 (the main Marvel Universe), so it’s some semi-interesting background.
Worth noting as well that several in the comments have declared these issues out of continuity, and I’m hard pressed to argue otherwise.
Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #1 – #8
Ultimate X-Men #1 – #6
Ultimate Marvel Team-Up #10 – #16
Ultimate Fantastic Four #1 – #6
实际上,《神奇四侠》直到2003年才上映,也就是在《终极英雄》之后。在《Ultimates #2》中便提到了团队,但我更喜欢他们在这里的起源。
Alright, after some notes in the comments let’s go ahead and call this one: Out of continuity! It’s a weird Fantastic Four story that never really aligns with the Ultimate Fantastic Four that would come.
After the Ultimate War
Ultimate Spider-Man #46 + Ultimate Six #1 – #7
Ultimate Fantastic Four #7 – #18
The Gah Lak Tus Trilogy Begins
Technically the Ultimate Vision saga was collected in short stories across the Ultimate line of comics. So, for example, Ultimate Spider-Man #86 included a piece of the Vision story. In Marvel Unlimited, though, you can just read Ultimate Vision #0 altogether, and frankly it’s a lot more cohesive.
Ultimate Fantastic Four #19 – #26
Ultimate Fantastic Four Annual #1
Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk #1 – #6
Most of this showdown is published well after Ultimates v2 but I think it makes more sense before the conclusion of the Ultimates second wave.
Countdown to Ultimate Power
Ultimate X-Men / Fantastic Four #1 – #2
In Marvel Unlimited, the first issue is “Ultimate X-Men/Fantastic Four” and the second is “Ultimate Fantastic Four/X-Men”
Ultimate Fantastic Four #27 – #32
Ultimate Fantastic Four Annual #2
Ultimate Spider-Man #97 – #105
Countdown to Ultimate Human
Ultimate Fantastic Four #33 – #46
Ultimate Spider-Man #106 – #117
Ultimate Fantastic Four #47 – #53
Ultimate Spider-Man #118 – #122
Ultimate Fantastic Four #54 – #57
March to Ultimatum
Ultimate Spider-Man #123 – #128
Squadron Supreme #1 – #6
Ultimate X-Men/Fantastic Four Annual #1
Ultimate Fantastic Four/X-Men Annual #1
Ultimatum Reading Order
Ultimatum: Fantastic Four Requiem One-Shot #1
Ultimatum: Spider-Man Requiem #1
Ultimatum: Spider-Man Requiem #2
After Ultimatum
Ultimate Comics Armor Wars #1 – #4
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #1 – #6
Ultimate Comics Avengers #1 – #6
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #7 – #15
Ultimate Comics Avengers 2 #1 – #6
Ultimate Enemy Begins
Ultimate Comics Captain America #1 – #4
Ultimate Comics New Ultimates #1 – #5
Ultimate Comics Avengers 3 #1 – #6
Death of Spider-Man Reading Order
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #150 – #156
《终极蜘蛛侠》的编号回到了最初的150期。
Ultimate Comics Avengers vs. New Ultimates #1 – #2
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #157
Ultimate Comics Avengers vs. New Ultimates #3 – #4
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #158 – #160
Ultimate Comics Avengers vs. New Ultimates #5 – #6
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man (2011 – Present) #1 – #5
Countdown to Divided We Fall
Ultimate Comics Hawkeye #1 – #4
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #1 – #6
Ultimate Comics X-Men #1 – #13
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #7 – #12
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #7 – #12
Divided We Fall / United We Stand Reading Order
Ultimate Comics X-Men #14
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #13 – #14
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #13 – #14
Ultimate Comics X-Men #15
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #15
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #15 – #16
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #16
Ultimate Comics X-Men #16 – #17
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #17
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #17 – #18
Ultimate Comics X-Men #18 – #18.1
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #18
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #18.1
Countdown to Cataclysm
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #16.1 & #19 – #22
Ultimate Comics X-Men #19 – #22
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #19 – #24
Ultimate Comics Wolverine #1 – #4
Ultimate Comics X-Men #23 – #33
Ultimate Comics Iron Man #1 – #4
Ultimate Comics Ultimates #25 – #30
Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #23 – #28
Cataclysm Reading Order
Cataclysm Point One #0.1
Cataclysm: Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #1
Cataclysm: Ultimate X-Men #1 – #3
Cataclysm: The Ultimate’s Last Stand #1
Cataclysm: Ultimates #1
Cataclysm: The Ultimate’s Last Stand #2
Cataclysm: Ultimates #2 – #3
Cataclysm: Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #2 – #3
Cataclysm: The Ultimate’s Last Stand #3 – #5
Survive #1
After Cataclysm
Ultimate FF #1 – #6
Miles Morales: Ultimate Spider-Man #1 – #12
All-New Ultimates #1 – #12
The Ultimate Universe Concludes inSecret Wars!
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So I’ve been following this guide and really enjoying it. However I noticed The Ultimates #14 and so on seems to be missing. This list only stops at issue #13. I checked out other sites and those were the same thing. Only the first thirteen issues of The Ultimates. Is there a reason for this? Maybe I’m just overlooking this. Sorry I’m new to this lol. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Hello,
Thank you for doing such a wonderful reading list. I’ve been steadily making my way through it for some time now.
Can I ask why Ultimate Adventures is missed off? From what happens in the story, I think it should come after the Ultimates first run, but before Ultimate War.
Also, I think that Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk is in the wrong place. I’ve just finished that and started the last few issues of the Ultimates second run in which Betty is a peripheral character. Without going into spoilers, if UWvsHulk goes before Ultimates 2, Betty shouldn’t be in that, but she is. Maybe these two arcs are in the wrong order on your reading list.
Thank you for you many marvellous lists.
Andrew
Befire ultimates v3 has black panther you really need to read ultimate captain america annual which doesnt seem to be on the list
Or immediately after as it lays context for Ultimates 3, but doesn’t spoil its surprise.
The “Squadron Supreme 1-6” mentioned above is the 2008 series by Howard Chaykin and Marco Turini?
Hey Dave, for someone who really wants to get into the Marvel comics, do you recommend starting with the Ultimate Marvel Universe list above or would you recommend starting with your Best 100 marvel stories 1998 to 2015? Granted I don’t have unlimited time to read comics but I really do want to start reading them I just don’t know which of the two options are more worth my time. Any kind of reply would be sweet! Thank you!
目前,我建议你先看看最佳100部漫威漫画。这将让你了解漫威漫画世界的最新进展。
对于终极宇宙,我认为这是非常值得的时间,但如果你手头紧,我想看看“我非凡的一年”播客,我们这周开始我们的终极宇宙阅读俱乐部和播客* !*
details here:https://www.patreon.com/mymarvelousyear
Ultimates 4-13 seems to fit better right before Ultimate War cause of the appearances of pietro and wanda between 21 and 25 of X-Men
Or at least 8 and on which pietro and wanda appear in
Also, Ultimate Spider-Man 68 and 69 happens before Ultimate Fantastic Four 13-18, They appear in 68 and 69 before they’ve gone at all public
Ultimate Secret happens after Ultimates 2 1-5 as events from number are mentioned in one of the issues in passing despite the first issue of Ultimate Secret saying it happens before Ultimates
Ultimates Annual 1 occurs after Ultimates 2 issue 6
I ended up finding much better, clearer and actually accurate guides at crushingkrisis.com and comicbookreadingorders.com so if anyone else finds a bunch of inconsistencies and mistakes across this guide like I have then I suggest using them instead.
喜欢这个指南,并使用它来帮助你在Ultimate-dom中导航。好奇他们是否应该在早期的《终极战警》和《终极x战警》中有所调整。水银和猩红女巫在《终极战警》和《兄弟会》中都扮演着双重角色,所以我们最好将《终极战警》的后半部分读得更深入一些,再读到《终极战警》和《终极战争》。
Keep up the great work!
God, I wish there was more Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men.
它的方式有点现代化和精简,而且几乎每个系列都只有一个系列(如果你不把所有的事件都算进去的话,至少一开始是这样,但感谢上帝在这里给我指导),对于一个在过去20年基本上没有读过漫画的人来说,它是一个完美的读物。
Some might find it too edgy, but I love how dark some characters get, considering that it makes it more believable and it had a lot of ‘Oh Shit’ moments cause of that.
如果我只看《终极蜘蛛侠》不读其他书会有影响吗?
不是真的。You may the occasional reference, but Spidey is pretty self-contained.
may miss*
when you are reading ultimate x-men dont read 1/2. its after #6
ultimate marvel team up was a dissapoinment. I recommend not reading it. My only question is does it affect the storyline if you dont read Marvel Team Up?
No, not really. They’re referenced in passing, but nothing you can’t get from context.
I do agree though, they are poor!
The Daredevil and punisher one was amazing tho. I didn’t care for the rest.
Facts! I felt the same way.
I would recommend reading only the following:
Ultimate Team Up: Spider-Man & Daredevil & Punisher:
《惩罚者》和《超胆侠》都有很多很棒的背景故事。在漫画中参考了夜魔侠对蜘蛛侠的看法,这是一个很好的故事。
Ultimate Team Up: Spider-Man & The Black Widow:
Good backstory on Black Widow and has some good banter between the two.
Ultimate Team Up: Spider-Man & The Man Thing:
The ending sucks, but if you skip you will completely miss out on the introduction to Dr. Conners (Lizard) in 1610. He will show up later in Spider-Man with references to this comic.
我刚开始使用这个阅读指南,我想知道当我读到《秘密战争》的时候,我是否能够开始阅读《地球616》的余波。顺便说一下,我非常喜欢这个网站,它帮助我再次欣赏漫画。
Also interested in an answer to this.
我自己也不太确定,但我很确定两个宇宙相撞了。如果我是对的,它们都是一个宇宙。
Befire ultimates v3 has black panther you really need to read ultimate captain america annual which doesnt seem to be on the list
I’ve started going through, this is mainly about curiosity about the Maker and the Fantastic Four, but why are the Marvel Teamups placed before Ultimate X-Men? The Team-ups came out after.
The only team up that involves and X-Men is Wolverine, and that takes place before because Wolverine has not yet joined the X-Men at point if I am not mistaken.
如果我说错了,请原谅,漫威漫画(换了一个名字)不是在1936年首次出版吗?是否有一个列表/阅读顺序从那里开始?
The Ultimate universe started in 2000.
Hi. I’m a newbie to comics because I never had access to them when I was younger but digital comics have really helped. So since I’m just starting out, is this list all the issues or just your special picks? If these are just your special picks is there a way to know all the issues. Also, do you advice reading just comics of certain characters like for example I want to read Black Panther comics (and those of others characters too) or do you think I read comics by order of year of publication and read the whole lot instead of focusing on one character?
This is the complete list of the whole Ultimate Universe
This is a super helpful guide, because I own hardbacks of at least half of the Ultimate universe but fell off right before Miles Morales was introduced. Now I want to catch up!
不过,《终极力量》和一些一次性的故事都使用了来自《终极力量》的角色,这有点像《终极宇宙》的终极版本。因此,我相信JMS在Supreme Power上的运行是值得一读的,甚至在你进入主流之前。它当然比《一个锡兵》、《终极钢铁侠》或《终极超胆侠》和艾丽卡更相关!
I have a question Ultimate Spider-Man 14 came out before Daredevil and Elektra so which do you read first
Ultimate Daredevil & Elektra, Vol. 1 is basically flashbacks from their time at the college. So it is ok if you decide to read it later, it is not going to affect the chronology at all.
where does ultimate end fit in? and where does it go from there? does the ultimate comic world end?
它以《秘密战争》结束。(非常戏剧性地说)。Every universe from 1 to (unknown) ends with SECRET WARS
Also a big fan of the Ultimate Universe but I only ever read Spidey/X-Men and the first couple trades of UFF. Your guide is excellent! I have a few notes from my read through though, I’m currently starting Ultimate Power.
Ultimate X-Men #66 – #74: After the Date Night storyline Kitty mentions to Wolverine that Spider-Man saved them from the Marauders. It took me a lot of searching to find out they were referring to Deadpool’s team in the story arc in Ultimate Spider-Man #91 – #96 which is way ahead of your reading order.
I think Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk also does better after the full run of Ultimates 2, as Betty Ross is not jailed or participating in any fights as She-Hulk. It would also explain better why *spoiler* Fury lets Banner go at the end of the story.
我还没有完成终极力量#1 - #9,但是一开始凯蒂和彼得还在约会,据我所知,FF似乎不知道彼得是蜘蛛侠。在终极蜘蛛侠第97 - 105号之前出现就可以解释为什么彼得觉得他可以直接向FF寻求帮助,因为他似乎要帮助他们进行某种穿越次元的冒险。
The events of Ultimate Power also explain why Reed is so cautious/angry with Fury during Ultimate Spider-Man 97-105. *Just finished reading*
….Okay I just finished the last issue. Your time line for Ultimate Power does work better considering how it ends… Although this is the most plot-holey storyline I’ve read in the Ultimateverse. Peter is confused as to where Fury is after all this, even though he was there. Not to mention the plot hole with Kitty/Peter and how the F Doom returned from the Z-universe. Okay imma stop replying now.
Hello!
I’m not sure if you’re still following this and commenting back…but thought I’d give it a try.
I’ve been following this list for about a year and a half and have now managed to get myself every TPB up to “cataclysm” – so very close to finally finishing the whole universe!
I was wondering whether there are any Ultimate tpb that you’ve missed off this list intentionally or whether anyone knows of any that have been missed?
Thanks all!
我一般会建议你阅读《至高力量》漫画来补充你对《至高力量》的理解。你会对超级中队有更好的了解,尼克·弗瑞和力量公主也会互换位置一段时间。
It isn’t really necessary to read, but the Age of Ultron event in the mainstream (kind of) Marvel universe is responsible for Galactus entering the Ultimate universe and kicking off Cataclysm.
Miles Morales also crosses over into the mainstream Marvel universe in the pages of All-New X-Men #31-36.
此外,迈尔斯·莫拉莱斯和杰西卡·德鲁都在平行宇宙交叉事件中有角色,即使没有迈尔斯和杰西卡,这也是一个伟大的阅读。
除此之外,所有常规的终极宇宙的东西似乎都被解释了,尽管这个顺序有问题。
Hello!
Fantastic! Thank you for the information!
I’ll certainly dip into Supreme Power, and I’ve polished off the Spider-Verse once or twice already!
再次感谢您提供的信息!很高兴知道我几乎破解了所有的东西!
Hello!
非常感谢你提供的这些指南,这真的很有帮助!
I’m halfaw through reading the Ultimate Universe and I feel like 2012 Marvel Now would be a good entry point to the classic universe. My question is: do you think I should finish the whole Ultimate comics first, then Marvel Now, then Secret War? Or does it make more sense to read them both at the same time? And if so, after what Ultimate event is it wise to start Marvel Now?
Sorry for my English, I’m a French reader.
Thanks again for your amazing work!
I’m sorry, this is a good try but it’s not very accurate at all. To mention a few flaws (I can’t remember the comic numbers sorry);
1. Nightcrawler in x men comics has had a telling off and is no longer an x man, however, cut to a spider man comic, and there he is fighting alongside them.
2. Magneto is in hiding, yet cut to the spider man comics, and suddenly hes fighting the x men, and all the x men are together having disbanded in a previous x men comic!
3. Peter parker has an assignment where he has to look after these pretend babies. then the assignment finishes, yet in the following annual, guess what! There are the babies again!
4. Wolverine vs hulk. great. but afterwards…hang on, why is he suddenly back with the x men? And then after a few issues he goes to meet Nick Fury. To talk about what? To talk about fighting the hulk of course.
I let a few slide, but it’s getting silly now!
No offence, but i feel like ive wasted a lot of time going through this when I could be looking at a more accurate one. ( in some comics it even says “this takes place after issue blah blah blah” and you can’t even get that right!) Nice try, but no cigar, bub.
在你写下这篇文章的时间里,你本可以很容易地离开,然后找个地方抱怨。
Don’t appreciate the work put into this, don’t look at this.
Your list has truly been a great help, and I thank you for putting it together.
However, I noticed that you have it listed that you should read Ultimate X-men #72-#74 before you read Ultimate Spider-man #91-#94. After reading those issues, I’ve found it would probably make more sense to read Spider-man #91-#94 BEFORE Ultimate X-men #72-#74, as Ultimate X-men #72 references the events that occurred in Ultimate Spider-man #91-#94 (which heavily features the X-men).
除此之外,这是一个非常好的阅读顺序,我真的很喜欢用它来阅读《终极宇宙》。
Hi. I’m around that part and decided to pay close attention to what you said about the events on USM #91-94 being referenced on UXM #72. What I found is that one of the X-men says, and I quote: “(…) He totally saved our butts from the MARAUDERS while you were gone. (…)” However, the events on the aforementioned USM issues are with the Reavers… I don’t know, it could be a typo on the UXM issue or something that happened off-scene. Anyway, your comments on the matter are truly appreciated and they make me read more thoroughly.
I am just in the middle of the list and I began to worry about something…
It’s so easy to read the Ultimate Universe since there’s an easy guide for it, as there is not thousands of different characters and groups of heroes like in the 616 universe… I’m really interested in today’s comics like the A-Force, Young Avengers and of course, main events becouse of the movies…
But I don’t know how am I gonna do it to pass from the Ultimate universe to the main 616 earth… Is the transition easy to follow, am I gonna have to read 10000 comic issues a year to be updated? I just feel soooo overwhelmed about the big amount of issues to read and the amount of characters and how they conect each other…
HELP! T.T
I’d say jump on with the My Marvelous Year reading club. February is starting and we are getting in 2001, which starts leading us into Disassembled and the long line of Avengers Events.
Cool answer! Thanks! I’ll see what I can do, but a reading club… That way I won’t feel lonely reading Comics
我很好奇为什么最终起源被列得这么低而它基本上是从乞讨开始的?还是我遗漏了什么?我个人喜欢它在我的书架开始,但那只是我。
Thanks to this guide I have read every single 1610 comic.
Plenty of high points (USM being a personal fav from issue 1 all the way through), and few lows (The last few arcs of UXM were less than stellar) made reading it a pleasure.
I really enjoyed Ultimatum myself and was glad to see that the changes that happened stayed happened, something that the 616 could learn from I think. If a character dies, don’t bring them back 1000 times.
I’ve yet to read Secret Wars to see how everything finishes, but now I’ve joined the reading club I think I’ll be taking a break from finding out for a while.
首先,感谢你整理了这个列表。我注册漫威无限是为了阅读《终极宇宙》,它是一个很好的伙伴。But, questions…
I see The Squadron Supreme coming up and I was doing skimming some info about them. Another list has Supreme Power v1 1-6 in the list, after UXM # 39 and 7-18 later on, along with Doctor Spectrum. I suppose they explain the origins of Squadron Surpreme (?) but these were run under MAX a marvel imprint and I wasn’t able to find them on Unlimited.
I did, however, come across Squadron Supreme Saga, which seems like it might be summary of that run. Can you confirm? Is there a reason you chose to leave these off?
Oh, and yes, the Ultimate Annual #1 happens after Ultimates 2 #4.
I’m an old brazilian reader of Marvel’s comics (my history traces back to 1998) who happened to get very apart of it and recently have been caught back to this reading, and all I have to tell you is that this whole work of yours is just jaw dropping, and I can’t congratulate enough for it.
Thanks for this! I just subscribed recently to your Marvelous Year reading club so I’ve been frantically catching up with that (So close now! Just got to 1985, so I’ll be caught up with you guys soon) but have been wanting to check out the Ultimate Universe. I remember reading through the Ultimate Spider-Man comics when I was younger but don’t remember them as well, and have barely read any of the Ultimate X-Men or Fantastic Four comics. Your lists are so great though! I followed through your Modern Marvel guide up until civil war before subscribing to the reading club, and I have to say they work perfectly so that you don’t miss out on any details in the comic timelines. Stay awesome.